Oct 31, 2012 2:30pm PDT
tavis: good evening. from los angeles, i am tavis smiley. first a look at the latino voting with fernando espuelas. also robert glasper is here. his ep features performances by the roots. we are glad you joined us. king had that said there is right thing. i try to live my life every day by doing the right thing. we know that we are only halfway and we have work to do. fighting hunger in the u.s. as we work together, we can stamp hunger out. >> and by contributions to your pbs station from viewers like thank you. tavis: fernando espuelas is the host of the show that bears his name. he is one of the 100 notable hispanics. thank you for being here. it predicts a record latino turnout this time around. >> it is clear with all this enthusiasm across the nation they really galvanized a lot of people. tavis: i assume he is going to get the lion's share of that vote. >> they are 75%, so mr. romney has the lowest support since its gerald ford. i think mr. romney made a strategic decision to go after the hispanic vote. the republican platform reflects that. tavis: how would you situate the issue of immigration reform? >> i think it is more of a proxy for how people feel they are being disrespected by the rest of the country, and they brought immigration to the fore, not so much that is the issue, but it feels like it is being used, and people reacted to it. tavis: ferris is a bifurcation of the attitudes -- there is a bifurcation of the attitudes. there are a lot of hispanics who are disappointed of him not having done more in his first term, particularly in the forum that mr. romney showed up separately and mr. obama showed up separately. you promise. a promise is a promise. what do you make of that sentiment? he did not -- there are people who feel he did not push enough on immigration. >> we have to understand the country comes first. 2009 was a full-fledged economic collapse. to implement immigration reform would have been nonsensical from a political standpoint. i know there was an attempt to put some of its forward, but it got zero response from congressional republicans. i understand the promise, but i think there is a reality. tavis: for those hispanics who would disagree and say there never is i did time, black people would say, you could say it now is not a good time to end slavery or have voting rights. are they suggesting he should win another four years to press him on immigration reform? >> i think the economy has improved, and we are not in an emergency situation. the reality remains that the congressional republican party is for a much against immigration reform, so if the president is reelected, i think he will have a tremendous amount of support and an obligation to fulfill some promises, and that will be one of his priorities going forward. tavis: what happens if this does not become a major priority for him to? >> i think that would be a problem. i think he would lose a lot of support, and people would be betrayed. immigration reform has to be understood by recovery. there are nonpartisan studies that show immigration reform is a mechanism to drive economic growth. it just makes sense to america. there is a and a emotional aspect, and people feel really hurt and pushed away, but at the end of today, it is an economic issue, and that is the way it has to be framed. tavis: tell me why you believe they will take a different tack if mr. obama wins. if the president wins, he wins with a significant slice. the overwhelming majority of latinos will have voted for him if he wins. you had better concentrate on immigration reform or somebody. the other tactic is they did not vote for us. why respond? what theory is going to work? >> there is a reality, senator gramm said we are not creating enough angry white guys to have a future as a party, so the reality is of some point in the republican party will have to become more inclusive, so if it can be attributed to key states, certainly the thinking people will push the parties forward. sharon bush has -- there are rational people in the republican party, but i think it has been captured by a radical extremist group, which is the tea party. >> republicans have had some success. we talk about marco rubio. i can talk about another -- a number of others. even though the hispanics will vote for president obama this time around, why are they waiting for having success of the state and local level? >> hispanics are not monolithic, and when you look at florida, you have a cuban-american community that has historically been very republican. i think people are interested and want to report hispanic candidates, they are good. if marco rubio had had a pro in negation reform position, he would be the candidate, but since he does not, he was not chosen. eventually, i think the more sober voices will have more weight. tavis: what you think is the future of marco rubio? he did not win the hispanic vote. what is your read on his future? >> he is an intelligent man. he is quite articulate. does he play in florida? i am not sure. does he play in taxes, i am not sure. marco rubio is seen in some ways of being the latino face of a party that is very harsh to latinos. >> the democratic mayor acquitted himself quite nicely. what is his future? >> he is probably the biggest star they have the right now. he is a very smart guy. he is highly educated and very different from a lot of other latino politicians. he is completely american in his point of view. i think it will pass over more than a lot of other candidates. >> give me your sense of how important beyond this election this voting bloc will become. >> just democracy itself, that means the percentage of overall vote and will be hispanic will continue to grow. how will it break? i do not think it is a democrat did block. i think it is an independent bloc. i think it is winnable for both parties. i do not think immigration we will be talking about in five or 10 years. i think the party that ignores some of these basic issues, education reform is really a major civil rights issue right now. 80% of the students in los angeles public schools are hispanic, so when that system sales, los angeles fails, california fails, but latinos feel this as well. tavis: how important is it to have voices in mainstream media that get a chance to express this view? >> one would be nice. i am struggling. when you look at the sunday morning shows, they are fairly monolithic, and once in awhile you will have someone, but i think that is the issue. we have not had because the moment in the hispanic community. we are still seeing it out of the mainstream to actually speak english. people are amazed that i speak english. it is quite a challenge to have a diverse latino zins in way. if no one tunes in to watch those shows, that will eventually change it. >> i think we will be hearing your voice. up next, the grammy nominated jazz artist robert glasper. stay with us. robert glasper is a grammy nominated judge pianist. -- jazz pianist. ♪ tavis: i have always loved that your group is called the robert glasper experiment. >> it was supposed to be called the experiment, and i like it. tavis: i can think of a number of things, but the difference between experience and an experiment. >> it is the feeling you get when the art is given to you. you get to experience the experience. tavis: does it feel like an experiment to you? >> we always leave it open. everything is open ended from the beginning to the end. we do not know how it is going to end. >> is jazz pianist to limiting to you? is that too narrow? >> when i hear the word jazz pianist, i have the skills to do most things. even to be a bad jazz pianist, you have to be good. you can pretty much approach any music, and it is a state of mind. >> we were talking about how you got your street reacred. how much of it has to do with q- tip? >> he has a lot to do with my work. he supported me for a long term. all those guys, he was coming out ready to support me. tavis: it is on this new project. tell me about that track. >> he had lyrics already. all that information, he was like, if that survives -- i call this project black radio, because we feel like music is crashing a round of -- around us. i can always go back to a michael jackson record, certain songs. >> you are right, and i can take that into ways. -- two ways. it is a damning statement about black radio today. >> exactly. it had seven meanings, and that is normal. black radio hold our people in light. that is not good. >> to my mind, the loyal following you have developed, all you have received and all the folks who want to collaborate with you continue to build this fan base, and you call it a black radio. you were not on this show because i heard you were on black radio. >> it depends on a lot of clutter -- of twitter. facebook, all that stuff went through so fast. they are artists. everybody is a trailblazer in their own way. >> the other side of that argument is you are right. the good stuff always in two hours. -- always endures. because the good stuff is not holding up, there are so many stations playing the old stuff, and because you get old stuff so many time -- i can get in my car and here marvin gaye 10 times between here and my house. i appreciate the music. i appreciate the gift, but it is just a goody. it is not an old the because they play it all day. >> radio stations do not play it. this record is one of the trailblazers for bringing that back. >> the good news is you have a loyal following now. the bad news is you have a loyal following, which means they know what you like. they know what to expect common -- they know what to expect. what kind of pressure does that put you in? >> they know they can expect to not expect a certain thing, , souse i'd jump so much they know i am all over the place. most of them are like, we are waiting to see what you come up with next. tavis: is there a profile of your friends? what would that look lipoma -- now what would that look like? as opposed to the typical fan base that says, i want to hear that song again. you miss the interlude. i would think there is a liberation to having a fan base that is cultivated enough to let you be you. most of them do not have that in their fan base. >> the white kid sitting next to your auntie to the 20-year-old black girl who comes to my show. i make a joke all the time. one of the gains we had this summer, i looked over common- law and she might have been a 70-year-old caucasian lady next to a black lady, and they were both bobbing. was like, where do you see this? this is great. if you are a hip-hop fan, we are going to play something you like, but we are throwing some re you would not be sitting in front of. tavis: you have done some covers. >> i chose the for the gala, because she can sing anything. -- for layla because she can sing anything. i chose them because it was a perfect couple, and -- perfect cover, and i do not know many people who do that. tavis: this cp is out now. what is next in the agenda? >> i am going to do volume 2, featuring a slew of guests and artists i did not have room on this one for and people i have never worked with, so i am still getting back together -- getting back together -- that together. tavis: you are in los angeles. they are lined up all over the city. if you have just now come to know this brilliant artist, you now know the name, and you should add it to his collection. if you already know him, you are already in love with him. this project is called black radio. there you have it, and the new project is out, and it is called black radio. your first time on the show, i pray not your last. that is our show tonight. until next time, thanks for watching. keep the faith. >> for more information on today's show, visit tavis smiley at pbs.org. tavis: hi, i'm tavis smiley. join me next time for a conversation with a harvard professor of sarah lawrence-lightfoot. that is next time. we will see you then. >> there is a saying that dr. king had that said there is always the right time to do thei try to live my life every daywe know that we are only halfway and we have work to do. fighting hunger in the u.s. as we work together, we can stamp hunger out. >> and by contributions to your pbs station from viewers like you. thank you. >> be more.
Oct 31, 2012 9:00pm EDT
changes. so the next president will have to deal with that. and if you're like romney, he's going to be heading a political party who doesn't believe it's a problem. >> jonathan alter, great to have you on "the ed show." thanks so much for joining us tonight. that is "the ed show," i'm ed schultz, and "the rachel maddow show" starts right now. good evening, rachel. >> good evening, ed. thanks for stay with us for the next hour. happy halloween. as you can tell, my halloween costume this year is once again middle-aged lesbian pundit in cheap jacket. boo. because it is october 31st, in much of the country, kids are dressing up in costume and they're trick or treating. tonight, for our producer, it means indulging the frog prince who lives in his house who used to be his son, alias. it is halloween whatever it can be halloween. but this year, it is not halloween because it cannot be halloween ever. today governor chris christie postponed halloween today by executive order for the whole state of new jersey, the state hardest hit by hurricane sandy. they will be moving halloween to monday, monday, november 5th, in order to protect new jersey's young trick-or-treaters from floodwaters and live wires and downed trees. these crews were fixing fallen power lines in toms river, new jersey, today. nearly 2 million households in new jersey are still without electricity today, day three. for reference in terms of how much of the country that means, even if there were only one person in each of the new jersey households without power, which is t isn't true, even if it was just one, the number of households without power in new jersey means there are more people in day three than the population of each of these states that is marked on the map this is a huge number of americans we are talking about here. and this is not over. this is not something that is done. it is not past tense. widespread flooding is still present. and the national guard today bringing food and supplies to hoboken, new jersey. he talked about hoboken on last night's show, the dire situation there. hoboken is a little town directly across the hudson river from manhattan. it is small, but it's got 50,000 people in it. you can see hoboken clearly from the west side of new york city. and as of last night, the mayor told us, there were as many as 20,000 people, of the population 50,000 people in the city, there were as many as 20,000 people still stranded in deep, impassable, and increasingly polluted floodwaters. the national guard did get to some of those people, starting late last night and into today. we'll have more about that very dramatic situation in just a moment. the national guard also arrived this morning in moonachie, new jersey, where the storm surge swamped the town very, very quickly. people in all sorts of housing in moonachie were caught unaware and trapped, but particularly folks in mobile homes had a very difficult time there. members of the national guard also rushed to the assistance today of new york city' bellevue hospital, which has been running on generators ever since the lower half of manhattan lost power monday night, when sandy came ashore. 17 million gallons of water flooded bellevue hospital's basement. after that shot we showed you last night of hospital employees making a human chain up the stairwell, a human chain to cover fuel to the backup generator up on the roof, 13 floors up. well, today the national guard used helicopters to fly fuel to the roof of the building. they also had individual soldiers today lugging fuel one canister at a time up those 13 flights of stairs. it turned out even with those heroic and exhausting efforts, the damage was much worse than expected at bellevue. and by lunchtime today, critical care patients including kids, were being evacuated, one by one, to other hospitals. that effort, that evacuation at this hour is still ongoing. today also afforded a clear and harrowing look at the aftermath of monday night's inferno in the new york city community of breezy point queens. that fire burned down 111 homes. 111 houses, as floodwaters kept firefighters out. a lot of firefighters live in breezy point. it is a community that lost a lot of first responders on 9/11, and now this. a series of natural gas fires also broke out early this morning in the new jersey shore town of mantoloking. this is what it looked like today across new jersey and in a lot of towns that in some cases even did have electricity, long lines and gridlock extending from any gas stations that had both power and gas. today the u.s. navy ordered three helicopter carrier ships to the new jersey and new york coast. the "uss wasp," the "uss carter hall," and the "uss mesa verde" will provide relief efforts the need be. the new york police department today released this rather amazing video of helicopter search and rescue teams airlifting people to safety off of rooftops in the new york city borough of staten island. staten island's death toll stands at 12, out of a growing national death toll of 64 americans. new jersey governor chris christie today was with president obama at the site of today's landfall in atlantic city. they were on marine one together, the president's helicopter, touring some of the cities in ruin along the new jersey shorelines. both politicians, both leaders today going out of their way to emphasize that day three of this massive, multi-state, ongoing natural disaster is still no time for partisan politics. >> i want to thank the president. we spent an significant afternoon together, surveying the damage up and down the new jersey coastline. we were on marine one together, to be able to show the president that personally. we had an opportunity to discuss it at length. and going over to the shelter here, be table to meet with folks and have them see the president and his concern and the concern all of us have for making sure that things get back to normal as quickly as possible. we have lots of challenges. our challenge now is to get back to normalcy. so the things we need to do is to make sure we get power restored as quickly as possible. to make sure people have clean drinking waters and waste water treatment plants are working, hospitals are taken care of the way we need to and that we get kids back to school. so i discussed all those issues today with the president, and i'm pleased to report that he has sprung into action immediately, to help get us those things, while we were in the car, riding together. so i want to thank him for that. he has worked incredibly closely with me since before the storm hit. i think this is our sixth conversation since the weekend, and it's been a great working relationship to make sure that we're doing the jobs that people elected us to do. and i cannot thank the president enough for his personal concern and compassion for our state and for the people of our state. and i heard it on the phone conversations with him, and i was able to witness it today personally. and so we're going to continue to work. >> we are here for you. and we will not forget, we will follow up to make sure that you get all the help that you need, until you've rebuilt. at this point, our main focus is on the states of new jersey, which got hit harder than anybody. the state of new york, particularly, lower manhattan and long island. we are very concerned about some situations in connecticut, as well. and we're still monitoring west virginia, where there are heavy snows in some inaccessible areas. but for the most part, those four states are really bearing the brunt of this incredible storm. what we've been able to do is to preposition and stage commodities, water, power generators, ambulances in some cases, food, medical supplies, emergency supplies, and we have over 2,000 fema personnel that are on the ground right now. their job, now that we're moving out of the search and rescue phase, is to make sure that they are going out and talking to individual communities, so that people know exactly how they can get the help that they need. >> new jersey congressman frank palone was with governor christie today. he is with us now, he represents new jersey's sixth congressional district, which is a shoreline district, fronting both new york harbor and the atlantic ocean. sir, thanks very much for your time. i know you've been all over your district in the past couple of days. what kind of damage are you seeing along the coast and in the cities of your district? >> it's all kinds of damage. i mentioned union beach to you before. that's a place where maybe three or four blocks from the bay, from the rarington bay, the storm surge came in and the waves were pounding on top of the houses. so some house just washed away completely. others were pounded to rubble. i had never seen anything like that before. there are other places like highlands, new jersey, where almost the entire town was underwater. maybe almost up to the second floor of the homes. and those homes really don't seem to be habitable anymore. so you have towns that were wiped out. you have incredible -- i just came, i kind of apologize for being dressed this way, but i just came from carterette, and i saw the natural gas explosion. we had a natural gas or a gas station explosion that wiped out five homes adjacent to each other. and i was talking to the people there, because as the storm surge came in, i guess it knocked off the boiler or the tank, and the gas exploded and the house went up in flames and four others houses adjacent there too went up in flames. so there are all kinds of things like that, rachel. >> i don't want to draw a comparison with hurricane katrina. i want to use it as an analogy. but the analogy here that might be helpful, we think back to katrina and what that meant to us as a nation. we very rarely think about the wind and the rain that was the initial storm. right now we are in the aftermath period of this superstorm, sandy. how do you feel in terms of dealing with the aftermath, describing those explosions, these ongoing worries. before we get to rebuilding, rescuing people, taking care of continuing damage right now. how would you assess the response and the coordination between the federal government, the state government, municipalities. how are we doing? >> i think we're doing very well. i mean, you heard the president, and i have to say that i think his response has been terrific, really. and it's been coordinated, unlike some of what happened in katrina. and you heard, you know, governor christie, who's a republican, with president obama, working together. and that's how it's been, from the president to the governor, all the way down to the county and the towns. so one of the things that i did today, in fact, i was just on the phone before i came in here, was talk to fema about trying to get an office and a staff person in various parts of the district that i viewed today, and they're working on it. i also asked, with the money that comes to towns for recovery, like to rebuild their boardwalks or their municipal buildings if they've lost it or their streets, i think there's a 25% state and local match. so we've asked and i believe the governor asked today that that be waived. a lot of these towns are very small and they can't afford that 25% match. so there's a lot of cooperation going on. >> and when you're making those calls, somebody's answering your calls and you're getting responses? >> i literally called fema, when i walked into your -- into the nbc building here today, and within ten minutes, they called me back. >> congressman frank pallone, represents new jersey's sixth congressional district. i know you, sir, were personally evacuated and you're back without power now, your staff is dealing with that too, so good luck to you and stay in touch with us. >> thanks very much. >> for reference, this is congressman pallone's congressional district. do we have that map? there we go. this whole coastal region, you can see, his district is marked in red there, where we have seen some of the worst devastation from this crisis. last night, live during this show, we had kind of a shocking moment in a live conversation with the mayor of one very, very hard-hit town. this is what happened on our air last night. this is hoboken mayor, don zimmer on this show last night, at about 9:30 p.m. eastern. note the time. >> probably half our city is flooded. we have just probably about 20,000 people that are -- still remain in their homes. we're trying to put together an evacuation plan, get the equipment here, ask the national guard to come in and help us and bring the equipment that we absolutely need. and we're begging and pleading and trying to get the national guard to give us the equipment to be able to get in. >> just to be clear, in terms of getting the word out nationally, and i think it needs to be underscored, that this is not a situation that's in the past, where hoboken went through something bad and you're now reflecting on it, you're ongoing in hoboken, just to be clear, mayor zimmer, how many people do you think are still stranded in hoboken? >> i would say about 20,000 to 25,000 people are still stranded in hoboken. >> so that was live on this show last night. obviously, really alarming news. that directly across the hudson river from new york city, 20,000 people were in need of rescue that night, right then. people in danger without the needed equipment or rescuers on scene to get to them. you could hear the upset and the determination in the mayor's voice, that this needed a response. now, not theoretically, but now, nearly half the population of that city stranded on the upper floors of their homes, many of them unable to get to safety through several feet soft water that the mayor explained was mixed with sewage, increasingly, a sewage treatment plant on the edge of town not working and sewage backing up into that water, water that could also be in contact with exposed live power lines, that was at 9:30 p.m. on this show, the mayor sounding that alarm here. about an hour and a half later, at 11:01 p.m. last night, the city of hoboken sent out this tweet. "the national guard has arrived!" specifically, the second battalion of the 13th infantry, with 12 vehicles, able to make it through hoboken's narrow streets in deep flood waters to begin assessing the city's needs. the first priority was getting the most vulnerable people who were still strapped on to dry ground, and then figuring out who to help next. with daylight, another look at the devastation from the air revealed just how much there was to do. roughly half of that city still underwater. one stranded resident showing what that looked like from his doorstep. the national guard spent today driving these high water vehicles through the flooded streets, rescuing stranded people. yes, some people rescued with their pets, their very large pets, getting folks to friends or to emergency shelters that were set up in a couple of churches. other stranded residents were able today to hitch rides out on boats. on the dry side of the city, neighbors were banding together. people who still had electricity created makeshift cell phone charging stations were their neighbors to use, while everyone still waits for the floodwaters to recede. the mayor warns with only one working pump station and a few pumping trucks to drain an estimated 500 million gallons of water out of the streets of the city, the process is going to take a couple of days. little hoboken, on the bank of the hudson river is still in bad shape, even now with the national guard and fema on the scene, mayor dawn zimmer is still calling for more help. amazingly, no fatalities have been reported there so far. but this town shows that the storm was one crisis. the aftermath of the storm is another. in the most densely populated area of the united states of america. we will keep you updated as we learn more. for you, dear ♪ ♪ anything, yes, i'd do anything ♪ ♪ anything for you ♪ >>> it is six days to the election, with the biggest population center in the united states engulfed in the aftermath of an unprecedented natural disaster. what the two candidates for president did on this sixth day before the election is an important study in contrast. that's ahead. 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[ female announcer ] stop searching and start repairing. eucerin professional repair moisturizes while actually repairing very dry skin. the end of trial and error has arrived. try a free sample at eucerinus.com. >>> governor christie, throughout this process, has been responsive. he's been aggressive in making sure that the state got out in front of this incredible storm, and i think the people of new jersey recognized that he has put his heart and soul into making sure that the people in new jersey bounce back, even stronger than before. so i just want to thank him for his extraordinary leadership and partnership. >> president obama spent part of the day today in coastal new jersey, along with new jersey's republican governor, chris christie. >> he has worked incredibly closely with me, since before the storm hit. i think this is our sixth conversation, since the weekend, and it's been a great working relationship, to make sure that we're doing the jobs that people elected us to do. and i cannot thank the president enough for his personal concern and compassion for our state and for the people of our state. >> you know, you would expect in a disaster this big that a president would be standing alongside and directing storm response with the governor from the state most affected by the disaster. i mean, generically speaking, this sort of appearance is not a remarkable concept. this thing becomes remarkable, though, to see president obama and chris christie standing together and praising one another and talking about the ways they are working together, and seeing their coordinated state and federal disasters, this sort of thing becomes remarkable today, only because president obama is a democrat, and chris christie is a republican, and chris christie specifically is a republican who has been a very caustic partisan critic of president obama, in his role as a campaign surrogate for mitt romney, who president obama is running against, in a presidential election that ends in six days. mitt romney and that campaign today, that campaign that chris christie has been supporting, they made a somewhat remarkable decision to go ahead and keep campaigning, today, to get back on the campaign trail and start doing partisan campaign rallies again, even while the president was still suspending his own schedule, so he could respond to the storm. so what we saw today, in split screen, was president obama departing the white house en route to storm-ravaged new jersey, after he stopped in at fema headquarters, and at the same time, mitt romney in full-on campaign mode in tampa, florida. and then it was president obama touring coastal new jersey and comforting victims of hurricane sandy, while mitt romney was holding what he called a big victory rally outside miami. and while the romney campaign made sure to have their most telegenic staffers say on camera today that they were going to avoid any partisan commentary today out of respect for the storm victims, they said they were going to avoid any partisan attacks on president obama on this very serious day, they said they would do that, but they apparently really did not mean it, because at a rally in wisconsin today, they had the republican party chairman talking about how america needs to fire barack obama, and saying that the battle to defeat president obama is a battle for this country's freedom. at a rally with mitt romney in florida today, they had that state's former republican governor, jeb bush, talking about president obama as a failure, his failure to bring this country together. at the same event, we had a republican state congressman tell parents that they should threaten to take halloween candy away from any children of obama supporters that they know tonight. he suggested it. i think the idea was he said that obama is a redistributionist, and so you can scare kids and their obama-supporting parents about redistribution if you steal the kids' candy. that was the tenor of the romney campaign today. even as they told the press corps that they were going to be very respectful and nonpartisan and refrain from attacking the president today. it was just a remarkable, remarkable day. a remarkable decision. i mean, president obama is expected to restart his campaign schedule tomorrow. but mr. romney did not want to wait for that. he started his campaign events today. i'm sorry, are you stuck doing something else? i'll take advantage of that? i'll get back on the campaign trail, i'm heading to florida. apparently you're otherwise occupied. well, i'm not. it's remarkable. it is a remarkable decision to restart his campaign today. but honestly, it is also remarkable that mr. romney never really stopped campaigning in the first place. we reported yesterday on this event that mr. romney held in dayton, ohio, yesterday afternoon. it was the event that had previously been billed as a victory rally in dayton. with the president off the campaign trail entirely to deal with the crisis, the tromny campaign realized it would be coarse to keep campaigning. the campaign's communications director put out a statement on monday saying that the romney campaign was going to be canceling all campaign events, "out of sensitivity to the millions of americans in the path of hurricane sandy." see, nthey realized like they hd to seem like they were being sensitive to the crisis. but they really, really wanted to hold that rally in dayton. so what do you do? how do you promise to cancel your political rallies in order to seem sensitive, but then hold your rallies anyway? well, in the case of dayton yesterday, and mitt romney, they held the same event, at the same time, in the same venue, with the same celebrity, and they showed the same vote for mitt romney campaign video from the republican convention, but they just changed the name of the event. they called it a storm relief event, instead of calling it a victory rally. the one thing they changed materially about the campaign rally in order to make people call it a storm relief event is that they asked people to bring canned goods and groceries as donations to the red cross. one of the problems with this, as we talked about on last night's show, is that that's not actually the right way to donate to the red cross. i mean, the desire to give groceries and canned goods at the time of a natural disaster comes from the right place, it is a nice impulse, but unless you're specifically requested by relief agencies or public officials to do that, donating canned goods and groceries is just not logistically helpful,s on a large scale and from across country, especially if you are a presidential candidate getting national press, implicitly telling the whole country this is the way to help, this is what everybody ought to be doing. i'm not just giving you my opinion on this. this is explicitly what the red cross says about donations on their website. they make clear, under their frequently asked questions on their website, that while they are grateful for any kind of thing people want to help, they don't actually except donations like that. the way you actually can help them is to donate blood or donate money. of course, having mitt romney do a photo op where people handed him money, people handed him checks probably would not make as good a photo op as people handing him bags of cans. so the romney campaign set up a photo op where people could hand him bags of cans. buzz feed reporter mckay coffins was at that event and added some important detail today to how it all went down. amazing story. apparently the campaign was worried that people would not bring enough canned and stuff to donate, and that would mess up their planned photo op of mitt romney carrying canned goods. so, quoting buzz feed, the night before the event, campaign aides went to a local walmart and spent $5,000 on granola bars, canned foods, and diapers. as supporters la s lined up to the romney, a young volunteer stood saying, you need a donation to get in line. one woman asked, what if we dropped our donations off up front. the volunteer gestured toward a pile of groceries conveniently stacked near the candidate and said, just grab something. two teenage boys retrieved a jar of peanut butter each, and got in line, when it was their turn, they handed their, quote, donations, to mr. romney. he took them, smiled, and offered an earnest "thank you." to be clear, the romney campaign held their campaign rally, called ate storm relief event, they bought donations for the red cross, and then they handed those donations to their own supporters in order to photograph them handing them back to mitt romney, so it would look like he inspired generous donations from those people that he actually did not inspire. and if they had bothered to check with the red cross, they actually don't want. and they certainly don't want it modeled as national behavior as for what the red cross want. again, the red cross, for the record, does not want your cans, they want your money and your blood donation, if you do actually want to help. i don't know what it looks like in a photo op, but you can text the word "red cross" to 90999. that will give a $10 to the red cross that you will see appear on your phone bill. you can do that right now as you are watching this show. text "90999", the word "red cross," and that actually will help. you can go to redcross.org and donate through their website. and you can donate blood at a blood drive in your local hometown. this is a real disaster. this is not a plot in a sit cco about how to run for president. this is a real disaster, an ongoing, affecting millions of americans. and real help really is needed. and that is not the same thing as using the suffering of millions of americans as an occasion to accrue political capital for yourself by trying to create the appearance that you are helping when you are not bothering to actually try to really help. that is something very different. >>> this is quite a time for the country, as you know. we're going through trauma in a major part of the country. the kind of trauma you've experienced here in florida more than once. and it's interesting to see how people come together, in a circumstance like this. now, people coming together, is also what's going to happen, i believe, on november 7th. >> pretty much equivalent. helping people who are suffering with their lives in danger because our fellow americans have been affected by a gigantic, national disaster in our biggest population center. pretty much the same thing as helping mitt romney get elected! pretty much the same thing, right? we all come together. right? our schools... ... what should we invest in? maybe new buildings? what about updated equipment? they can help, but recent research shows... ... nothing transforms schools like investing in advanced teacher education. let's build a strong foundation. let's invest in our teachers so they can inspire 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